This is the conclusion of the king follett sermon, delivered by the prophet joseph smith at the april 7, 1844, conference of the church in. The father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as mans4 to further strengthen their view, the lds church uses the old testament to teach that humans are physically. It was not published in the lds churchs 1912 history of the church because of. Aug 24, 2011 the exclusion and inclusion of the king follett discourse in the history of the church constitutes one of the most interesting episodes in the history of church publishing. Joseph smiths role as prophet in view of the king follet discourse. The account of the talk noted that it was the funeral sermon for elder king follett, a close friend of the prophets who had been killed in an accident on march 9. Tpjs 8 the foundation of the church1 in these last days, and a benefit to the world, showing that the keys of the mysteries2 of the kingdom of our savior3 are again entrusted to man. On 15 august 1844, the church newspaper times and seasons offered the first published account of the discourse, a version amalgamating bullocks and.
The first part of this classic was reprinted in the april ensign page 12. This volume features articles examining the king follett discourse and its doctrinal impact, including an amalgamated. This is the conclusion of the king follett sermon, delivered by the prophet joseph smith at the april 7, 1844, conference of the church in nauvoo, illinois. Jul 24, 2017 i wanted to get some input on the answer bruce r. Because a church elder named king follett had died in an accident a few weeks before the conference, joseph smith took the opportunity to specifically comment on folletts death and to speak on what he called the subject of the dead. The king follett discourse, or king follett sermon, was an address delivered in nauvoo, illinois by joseph smith, president and founder of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints, on april 7, 1844, less than three months before he was murdered by a mob. The immortality of the intelligence of man joseph smith april 7, 1844 history of the church, 6. Lorenzo snow, the churchs fifth president, coined a wellknown couplet. Posts about king follett discourse written by admin. Nonprint versions of our journal are available free of charge, with our goal to increase understanding of scripture. Mormonism and the nature of godking follett discourse fairmormon. Jun 09, 2011 eternal perspective, exaltation, joseph smith, joseph smith, king follett discourse, perditionunpardonable sin, volume 6, work for the dead june 9, 2011 leave a comment i have a declaration to make as to the provisions which god hath made to suit the conditions of man, made from before the foundation of the world. Audio files mormon history this lecture was given on november 22nd, 2015, discussing my approach to writing early mormon. Accounts of the king follett sermon the joseph smith.
The adamgod theory has long been a staple of antimormon writers bent on discrediting brigham young and a source of concern for latterday saints with a historical or doctrinal bent. This volume features articles examining the king follett discourse and its doctrinal impact, including an amalgamated text of josephs greatest sermon. Roberts singlehandedly preserved it within the history of the church, against the opposition of some of his fellow brethren. The king follett discourse kindle edition by byu studies. An early convert to the church of jesus christ of latter day saints in 1831, he was a police constable and was notably the last prisoner released in the 1838 mormon war. King follett discourse learning about latterday saints. This sermon was given by joseph smith in memory of an lds elder named king follett. The king follett discourse, also known as the king follett sermon, was delivered by joseph smith on april 7, 1844, at a conference of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints in nauvoo, illinois. Additional changes for organization and clarification will be made to this page in the coming weeks.
Download it once and read it on your kindle device, pc, phones or tablets. The church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult. What is the meaning of the prophets language in the king. The king follett discourse the being and kind of being god is. Roberts, editor of the sixvolume work, decided to include the king follett discourse in volume 6 of the first edition. Joseph smiths king follett discourse 7 april 1844 before considering the teaching of the king follett discourse, we should briefly address a common objection one hears occasionally, namely, that the sermon should not be used in discussing lds doctrine because it is not part of the lds scriptures and has never been canonized. Outlines of mormon philosophy and the king follett discourse. Oct 27, 2015 joseph smith explained that genesis 1. The king follett discourse of 7 april 1844, perhaps the most signifi cant sermon.
In joann follett mortensens the man behind the discourse. Mormonism and the nature of godking follett discourse. Mcconkie gave regarding a question asked to him about the king follett sermon. Whitebinder a personal archive of articles, lds talks, spiritual thoughts, quotes, jokes and other interesting content. If the kfd os not doctrinal, then nothing in the lds church is. What is the meaning of the prophets language in the king follett discourse regarding spirits and intelligence. Historical matters and incidental or unimportant matters have been elimin. These videos were created for latterday saint parents and allies to voice their love for their lgbt brothers and sisters, sons and daughters. This especially was true of the 1844 king follett discourse delivered by joseph smith, jr. King follett discourse selected quotes from the journal. This version was put together and published by byu studies by using the most recent research from byu. Woodruff claimed in 1877 to have recorded the king follett discourse on. Oct 22, 2017 was the king follett discourse historically true in joseph smiths day but false in our day.
President joseph smith delivered the following discourse before about twenty thousand saints at the april conference of the church, 1844, being the funeral sermon of elder king follett. A newly amalgamated text stan larson the king follett discourse of 7 april 1844, perhaps the most signi. Discourse, 7 april 1844, as reported by wilford woodruff. The king follett discourse brigham young universityidaho. Omega publishing, 72007 1 joseph smiths king follett discourse. Apr, 2016 a casual reading of the king follett sermonan address delivered by joseph smith, jr. The 40 years in mormonism lecture series has been added to this general downloads page, below the pdf download section. The king follet discourse in light of ancient beliefs duration. Until around 1915, everything said by the mormon apostles and the presiding mormon prophet in lds general conferences was regarded immediately as canon mormon scripture and commandments. The king follett discourse, or king follett sermon, was an address delivered in nauvoo, illinois. It is estimated that around 20,000 members of the church were in attendance in a grove of trees west of the nauvoo temple. At the 1994 unveiling of the sun stone for the reconstruction of the nauvoo temple, president hinckley commented on joseph smiths doctrine of.
The doctrinal impact of the king follett discourse published by byu scholarsarchive, 1978. The king follett or follet discourse is considered a milestone in the development of lds. The exclusion and inclusion of the king follett discourse in the history of the church constitutes one of the most interesting episodes in the history of church publishing. The king follett discourse of april 7, 1844, perhaps the most significant sermon delivered by the prophet joseph smith, was preserved in manuscript form by thomas bullock, william clayton, willard richards, and wilford woodruff. The conclusion is drawn by joseph smith in his king follett discourse. The king follett discourse of april 7, 1844, perhaps the most significant sermon delivered by the prophet joseph smith, was preserved in manuscript form by. Stapley, in his fascinating history of the king follett discourse, describes how some leaders of the lds church began to look upon that sermon with suspicion, and how b. The king follett discourse by joseph smith prophet of the restoration general conference april, 1844. The king follett discourse was a funeral sermon preached by joseph smith on behalf of elder king follett, an early convert to mormonism, who, on march 9, 1844, was crushed to death when a bucket of rocks fell on him as he was walling up a well. The king follett or follet discourse is considered a milestone in the development of lds thought and theology. Since that sermon, known as the king follett discourse, the doctrine that humans can progress to exaltation and godliness has been taught within the church. Mortensens decades of research into her own farremoved sire brings us an avalanche of detail from aged public records and incidental mentions in lds documents. King follett discourse mormonism, the mormon church.
A casual reading of the king follett sermonan address delivered by joseph smith, jr. Jessee, the reliability of joseph smiths history, journal of mormon. It was delivered as the funeral sermon for elder king follett, who had been killed when a load of stones. The immortality of the intelligence of man by joseph smith the prophet. Joseph smiths role as prophet in view of the king follet. While king folletts name has been indelibly attached to joseph smiths most famous public discourse, his personal history has been something of a mysteryuntil now. I remember my ward library had stacks of various pamphlets published by the church, one of which was the king follett discourse. God the father has a body is not only evident from the king follett discourse, but also from smiths revelation found in doctrine and covenants. At the beginning of the sermon, the prophet spoke of the passing of. King follett discourse selected quotes from the journal of. A newly amalgamated text, byu studies 182 winter 1978.
July 26, 1788 march 9, 1844 was a mormon elder and a close friend of joseph smith. He discussed this principle in his famous funeral sermon for king follett amalgamated, parallel as well as during his sermon in the grove hc, parallel, where he turned commentator on the hebrew text of the bible. Obvious errors in punctuation and sentence structure have been edited. Lycurgus arnold wilson was born in salem, utah in 1856. This version of the king follett discourse is different than what you find in the teachings of the prophet joseph smith. King follett discourse rational faiths mormon blog. Because a church elder named king follett had died in an accident a few weeks before the conference, joseph smith took the opportunity to specifically comment on follett s death and to speak on what he called the subject of the dead. A biography of king follett we have just such an effort. As a side note, the lds church continues to propagate this teaching of god once being a man who became. The king follett sermon, one of the classics of church literature, was given by the prophet joseph smith at the april 7, 1844. This is the case with many apostates of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. It has been thought best to give each article, or porti on of article, chronologically, with an exhaustive index through which the various subjects may be found.
At the 1994 unveiling of the sun stone for the reconstruction of the nauvoo temple, president hinckley commented on joseph smiths doctrine of god presented in this 1844 sermon. It is taken directly from the lds webpage, it is a classic. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading the king follett discourse. This entry was posted in joseph smith, journal of discourses, king follet discourse, perdition on july 26, 2011 by admin. The address has often been referred to as the king follett sermon or king follett discourse. The twentieth century brought different challenges. This sermon, important for its startling new doctrine regarding the nature of god, was reported by willard richards, wilford woodruff, thomas bullock, and william clayton and was first published in the times and seasons, 5 15 august 1844.
Aug 26, 20 joseph smiths king follett discourse 7 april 1844 before considering the teaching of the king follett discourse, we should briefly address a common objection one hears occasionally, namely, that the sermon should not be used in discussing lds doctrine because it is not part of the lds scriptures and has never been canonized. At the april 1844 lds conference joseph smith gave his most famous sermon, sometimes referred to as the king follett discourse. The king follett sermon, one of the classics of church literature, was given by the prophet joseph smith at the april 7, 1844, conference of the church in. The present text of quotes from the king follet discourse as recorded in the lesson manual is from the. Why the rlds restoration branches reject the king follet.
Roberts singlehandedly preserved it within the history of the church, against the opposition of some. The king follett discourse mormonism research ministry. Joseph smith to about ten thousand souls upon the subject of the death of. What about other teachings of joseph smith or more recent prophets. There never was a time when there were not spirits. Baughthe man behind the discourse reveals something of the drive in all of us to know who we are. The king follett discourse by joseph smith swelter. Longhand notes of the discourse were made by willard richards, wilford woodruff, thomas bullock, and william clayton. Joseph smith to about ten thousand souls upon the subject of the death of elder king follett 2426 july 17889 mar. Mcconkies response regarding the king follett discourse. The father, by experience, knows exactly what his son has been through.
They want to give a message of comfort and support to other parents who are navigating the difficult conflicts that can arise in families around this issue. The king follett discourse in the light of ancient and medieval jewish and christian beliefs perhaps none of the prophet joseph smiths sermons has been the subject of as much study and debate as the king follett discourse, delivered 6 april 1844 in nauvoo, less than three months before the prophets murder in carthage. If false, he would have to be viewed as a deceiver because he was preaching a false god a man who became the god and heavenly father of our earth. However, despite the ease with which the term has been. Roberts saves the king follett discourse from obscurity 07 jun j. Was the king follett discourse historically true in joseph smiths day but false in our day. Roberts saves the king follett discourse from obscurity.